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Wed Nov 18 2009 6:48:06 PM |
Hey, CavBank. Remember your post about Sen. Lugar's wife? -- Texas Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 3:35:11 PM |
Wonder if she was wearing this outfit? -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 3:47:53 PM |
I am told this is a flashbulb phenomnon, ie, looking at her -- southdenverhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:37:30 PM |
Have you ever read the top of this page any of you? I finally did ** -- MSGHoofan Fri Nov 20 2009 3:45:29 PM |
Maybe Kris needs to use more one syllable words. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 3:50:18 PM |
Getting a DUI at.06 would piss me off. ** -- HoosHouse Fri Nov 20 2009 3:43:40 PM |
Good lawyerin' and a few grand would make you (relatively) happy again ** -- southdenverhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:38:35 PM |
If this was about CB, why not just privately email him that link? ** -- vwahoov Fri Nov 20 2009 3:42:55 PM |
If CavBank provided the same courtesy I'm sure Texas wouldn't have posted that ** -- DAMHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:43:33 PM |
True. Doesn't make it funny of Tex to do or right. ** -- vwahoov Fri Nov 20 2009 5:02:40 PM |
I'm just trying to provide the same service as CB. ** -- Texas Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:04:45 PM |
Bingo ** -- DAMHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:42:35 PM |
I feared someone would act childishly enough to stoop to his level. -- aficionadHOO Fri Nov 20 2009 3:39:56 PM |
This could get interesting if proved to be true......Hadley CRU docs hacked -- Teflon Fri Nov 20 2009 2:49:41 PM |
HIDE THE DECLINE! Would they dare sue and admit emails were real? ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 5:03:54 PM |
Response from RealClimate. -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 3:50:52 PM |
Kind of tempers things quite a bit, doesn't it? -- Hood Fri Nov 20 2009 4:24:22 PM |
I agree Hood that the hacker will certainly use the data to their own ends. With -- Teflon Fri Nov 20 2009 4:52:36 PM |
Just another inconvient truth, eh? ** -- manassashoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:34:31 PM |
LOL ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 4:41:42 PM |
A resoned response that will fall on deaf ears, HB. -- Seattle 'Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:22:28 PM |
You're right about one thing, people will believe what they want to believe. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 4:44:24 PM |
Resoned = Reasoned ** -- Seattle 'Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:22:57 PM |
Quick,...someone call CNN.... ** -- hoobedda Fri Nov 20 2009 3:40:23 PM |
I just posted this below in HOO86's thread. THIS IS HUGE!!! -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 3:14:59 PM |
Hahaha, wow. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 3:35:20 PM |
Today's Daily Reckoning -- Joey Wahoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:31:37 PM |
Very insightful article on what is under consideration for Afghan... -- Mikeysurf Fri Nov 20 2009 1:54:43 PM |
It didn't help that Iraq put off their elections. Getting our kids out of there -- Lazarus Fri Nov 20 2009 2:46:06 PM |
What do you think of Karzai? -- hawkb Fri Nov 20 2009 2:04:05 PM |
Handsome, smart, articulate -- NJHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 3:12:20 PM |
Finally those hippie Berkley students have something real to protest about. -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 12:43:11 PM |
The non-issues the screeching right makes into "demmucrat party issues" ... -- WahooRQ Fri Nov 20 2009 2:05:25 PM |
Do you want your democrat to run country into the ground as they did California? ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 3:26:58 PM |
Didn't the republicans already do that? ..... -- WahooRQ Fri Nov 20 2009 3:28:16 PM |
So R's run country into ground, BO and D's do 2-4x what R's did and its okay? -- FreshHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 3:41:12 PM |
Our only hope is to cross the streams? ** -- 111Balz Fri Nov 20 2009 4:34:09 PM |
It would be bad. ** -- vwahoov Fri Nov 20 2009 5:03:54 PM |
That looks like UCLA. Democrat mismanagement chickens home to roost. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:29:00 PM |
My bad, they are also protesting at Berkley. Locked themselves in a building. -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:40:26 PM |
Schadenfreude? Did you see the pic of the kid getting tasered? -- Lazarus Fri Nov 20 2009 2:52:37 PM |
I don't blame them for protesting. That's the whole point of my post. -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 3:03:07 PM |
My bad. In that case I agree with you. Apologies kail. ** -- Lazarus Fri Nov 20 2009 3:26:27 PM |
Hysterical. You blame youth & Dems; CavBank blames Reagan & GOP. Both wrong! ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:36:10 PM |
Reagan had California more straightened out when he left in 1975. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:45:33 PM |
Hysterical. You blame youth & Dems; CavBank blames Reagan & GOP. Both wrong! ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:36:09 PM |
The true cost of liberalism is commin home.....to roost! ** -- kingralf Fri Nov 20 2009 1:17:37 PM |
Is the "cost of liberalism" a top 25 education for 9 grand a year? -- WahooRQ Fri Nov 20 2009 2:27:21 PM |
And a broken budget/balance sheet... -- Moneyshot Fri Nov 20 2009 2:52:51 PM |
Hysterical. The Outrage-aholics are hittin' the sauce again. ** -- DiHOOgenes Fri Nov 20 2009 2:32:32 PM |
Don't you think it is still very cheap. 32% sounds like a lot but -- KCHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:24:57 PM |
Pew Center research on states in financial peril and how they voted in the past -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 2:38:43 PM |
Florida, Arizona, and Nevada along with CA are the Real Estate Bubble. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:48:58 PM |
So, if CA, even after the hike, is less expensive than VA, does that mean that -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:29:39 PM |
No. ** -- ryno hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:35:17 PM |
Persuasively argued ;) -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:42:24 PM |
They spent too much on entitlements it's as simple as that. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:28:28 PM |
Yes -- without being willing to pay taxes to pay for them -- KCHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:25:56 PM |
Or the legislature made promises they can't keep. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:28:00 PM |
Sobering news on the commonwealth's transportation prospects... -- Mikeysurf Fri Nov 20 2009 10:57:15 AM |
I'm looking for spcifics re: VRE expansion to Bealeton/Remington via the old -- southdenverhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:21:27 AM |
Priority only is with them that have to make teh drives from -- MSGHoofan Fri Nov 20 2009 12:15:03 PM |
I'm looking for spcifics re: VRE expansion to Bealeton/Remington via the old -- southdenverhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:21:26 AM |
Sorry, i really did only click once, weird stutter... ** -- southdenverhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:22:17 AM |
Happens to me, especially from my iPhone ** -- Mikeysurf Fri Nov 20 2009 11:37:59 AM |
LOL. Der Spiegel: "Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-out" -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:31:13 AM |
"Global Climate Center" HACKED! Will potentially uncover tampering with temp. -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 3:06:42 PM |
They like to use 1970s as baseline-Newsweak said Global Cooling was threat then -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 12:14:33 PM |
Did the Newsweak article say we are stupid rednecks if we don't agree with it? ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 12:20:45 PM |
Newsweak still using fear to sell copies. ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 4:59:24 PM |
A proven tactic, as of late. *Wink* ** -- vwahoov Fri Nov 20 2009 5:07:18 PM |
I haven't seen boogie man since 1st grade either. Doesn't mean he isn't real. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 11:19:18 AM |
They can't even agree if it's gotten colder or warmer over the past decade... -- The Hook Fri Nov 20 2009 11:18:45 AM |
The whole movement has become religous, not scientific. They've lost their minds ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 12:37:55 PM |
Religious ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 12:38:58 PM |
We better hurry up and nationalize our economy before its too late. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 11:20:31 AM |
Meanwhile Ireland and England had a 1 in 1000 year storm -- KCHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:17:26 AM |
What constitutes a 1000 year storm is guesswork. -- Automator Fri Nov 20 2009 11:56:43 AM |
I agree with that, but it was still an absurdly large storm -- KCHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:26:54 PM |
Reminds me of the guy in the New York Times who writes the annual article with -- Tiki Time Fri Nov 20 2009 10:52:32 AM |
Hey, Dan. Your earlier defense of the Admin's bogus job numbers was admirable... -- Texas Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 9:23:34 AM |
Where I see Obama and his administration struggling is in... -- Mikeysurf Fri Nov 20 2009 12:05:57 PM |
Re: Good commentary, Mike. ** -- PhillyHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:35:13 PM |
The problem is not only was the bill not targeted enough -- TomKazanski Fri Nov 20 2009 12:27:02 PM |
I love Obamanomics. 1 $1,100 lawn mower saved 50 jobs! woohoo! ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 11:22:44 AM |
All the uproar is easily explained by use of the term 'saved jobs' -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 10:37:35 AM |
How does one know if his/her job was saved? -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 3:45:27 PM |
How do we really know if a job was created because -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 4:03:23 PM |
Not just that. I recall heartburn when Bush claimed -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 11:45:28 AM |
At least Bush had something to crow about when the economy took an upturn -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 3:21:05 PM |
Mythical creation? -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 3:58:35 PM |
2 Quarters only. Shouldn't be tried again. Here comes Obama again. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:27:07 PM |
When you start "saving" in places that don't exist, then the uproar gets louder. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:44:25 AM |
Well, when you ask for unmeasureables, you're apt to get wild -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 10:57:04 AM |
Amazing, Libs have no problem with fake districts and fake jobs but get upset -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 10:01:42 AM |
Since those "jobs saved" numbers from the $787 billion Waste Bill are Bullsh*t -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 9:46:10 AM |
I'm astounded how anyone can defend these bogus numbers. -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 9:29:10 AM |
I can. It is stupid, of course, for anyone -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 9:51:27 AM |
I think he saved or created 1 billion jobs -- foos Fri Nov 20 2009 10:29:29 AM |
So are you denying that stimulus saves jobs? ** -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 11:39:56 AM |
Don't be a fool -- foos Fri Nov 20 2009 11:48:12 AM |
...ummm. So I guess you are denying that -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 12:51:50 PM |
Actually I will leave -- foos Fri Nov 20 2009 1:05:58 PM |
So your answer is no, you are not denying it. ** -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 3:51:11 PM |
Listen to yourself, the fact that anyone parrots "save or create" -- 2011BIL Fri Nov 20 2009 10:20:55 AM |
Hmmm. I sense an inability to grasp new concepts. -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 11:39:00 AM |
Obama is making you look as foolish as Homer Simpson -- 2011BIL Fri Nov 20 2009 12:24:20 PM |
Yes, I know, and evolution hasn't been proven either. -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 12:57:43 PM |
Will you stop putting arguments that I didn't make in my mouth? -- 2011BIL Fri Nov 20 2009 1:10:57 PM |
So are you denying that stimulus has an effect? ** -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 3:52:35 PM |
LOL! Not much of a defense of major screw up like BO ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 10:03:59 AM |
I'm astounded how anyone ever could have considered voting for Obama. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 9:47:04 AM |
I'm astounded how anyone ever could have considered voting for McPalin. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:45:13 AM |
That ticket would have had the jobs returning by now. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:49:15 AM |
Re: That ticket would have us in a Great Deppression by now. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:27:26 AM |
If you believe Obama we were in a great depression the day he took office ** -- Teflon Fri Nov 20 2009 2:21:35 PM |
Well, I was certainly depressed that day! ** -- PhillyHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:38:22 PM |
I was a few months before. By that day, I knew the country had lost its mind. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:55:40 PM |
Combine'em w/ the fools who voted for McPalin and we are in Dumb-bo land ** -- CavBank Fri Nov 20 2009 10:31:31 AM |
He is less of a problem than Pelosi/Reid are -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 10:04:28 AM |
Obama's never managed anything in his life. He's never reached across the aisle -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:10:14 AM |
How can the board's staunchest partisan criticize anyone for failing to "reach -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:55:12 AM |
When the criticized talked a fraudulent game of being "Post-Partisan". ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:23:41 PM |
Laches, bud -- unclean hands. -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:33:00 PM |
Oh. It's available, and loudly explained. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:47:50 PM |
Don't get discouraged.It took the public 7yrs to see Reagan's ineptitude ** -- CavBank Fri Nov 20 2009 10:35:27 AM |
If Reagan was so inept how did his veep of 8 years get elected prez? -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 10:47:22 AM |
The country wishes it could be so lucky as to have another RR. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:24:59 PM |
Cheney said that Reagan taught us deficits don't matter. -- Shenhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:48:15 AM |
Obama campaigned loudly that they do. Look at him now. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:49:07 PM |
I am. I think he's spends way too much like Reagan and the Bushes. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:13:09 PM |
Not like Reagan and the Bushes. Four times worse. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:20:57 PM |
Good old Americans have a very difficult time admitting mistakes. It's taken my -- CavBank Fri Nov 20 2009 11:01:56 AM |
Dukakis happens. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:52:44 AM |
Reagan didn't have ineptitude. The public is seeing Obama's in 10 months. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:40:08 AM |
Yes, putting Palin one step from the presidency would -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 9:54:16 AM |
Palin one step or Obama in? Which is worse? The latter, I'm afraid. ** -- PhillyHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 2:39:36 PM |
I guess we will have to disagree, I assume based on our evaluations -- HoosWillWin Fri Nov 20 2009 4:04:55 PM |
Without question YES. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:05:26 AM |
That is the reason why I voted for Obama. -- Boris HOOinski Fri Nov 20 2009 9:57:02 AM |
So you got stuck with someone as P with less experience and ability in BO ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 10:06:18 AM |
Is there a reason that all of your posts read like algebraic equations? ** -- vwahoov Fri Nov 20 2009 10:37:40 AM |
Unable to discuss the facts? Whine on ** -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 11:29:36 AM |
Maybe he just doesn't speak Hookem? -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:34:24 PM |
God forbid anyone have an opinion different than yours. ** -- Automator Fri Nov 20 2009 9:52:44 AM |
Angry Congress lashes out at BHO (link) -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 8:52:36 AM |
Awesome, get out the pitchforks. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 11:11:53 AM |
And it finally looks like we are getting some traction on multiple fronts. -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 11:24:48 AM |
Maybe I'm dense, but couldn't figure out from your link what the Paul/Grayson -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:32:48 AM |
Check out the link below. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 11:41:30 AM |
Oh. Thx. BTW, does it look now as if I'm in the tank for the DNC? ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:59:42 AM |
I see plenty of Democrats in Congress who are concerned -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 12:23:02 PM |
Agree. And where do you come down on the Fed audit? I favor, fwiw. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:38:04 PM |
Absolutely I do. I don't believe they are independently working for the greater -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 2:07:08 PM |
And here is the story from Bloomberg on Ron Paul's plan -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 11:27:40 AM |
Lol, public grandstanding instead of actual progress. Standard for Congress ** -- hatetheturtle Fri Nov 20 2009 9:10:13 AM |
Great one, thanks. It's ALL about the economy. -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 9:07:28 AM |
It darned well should be about the economy. Why anyone is focused on anything -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:47:16 AM |
He knew the drill, stay connected to the pulse of the voters in the middle -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 11:15:35 AM |
Obama's been "where's Waldo?" since he took office. Has done nothing I know of. -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:31:23 AM |
Abdication of power to pelosi and reid -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 1:55:47 PM |
Wow, Capital Hill, not a place for the meek these days -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 9:06:32 AM |
There's gonna be a reveolution if these clownss don't get their heads in the -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:48:37 AM |
I've said it a million times before ..... ten point two -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 11:17:41 AM |
I agree that it's been at least a million times now. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:25:04 PM |
Gonna get worse before it gets better. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:33:38 AM |
Goldman-Sachs shorting the banks. Can you say double dip recession? ** -- wahoo99 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:40:43 AM |
And yet their employee compensation is at record highs. Now shareholders are -- HireGrobeFireGroh Fri Nov 20 2009 11:40:10 AM |
We're going to require another recession to exit Obama's stagflation anyway. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:23:51 AM |
Forgot link. -- wahoo99 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:42:48 AM |
Fred Thompson on Afghanistan. (2:52 video) -- wahoo99 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:39:11 AM |
Well articulated by Fred. Democrats are incapable of Defending America. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 10:04:22 AM |
Read it and weep -- Joey Wahoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:25:03 PM |
Blah, blah, blah. Again I ask; where does everybody propose we cut spending? -- Seattle 'Hoo Fri Nov 20 2009 3:30:20 PM |
I agree there is no stomach for what must be done, but this is not sustainable -- Joey Wahoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:57:34 PM |
Total deficit incl. unfunded liabilities must be approaching $100 TRILLION! ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 8:58:47 AM |
With Obama's October deficit at $176 billion, this $1.4 will be small soon. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:47:58 AM |
Actually, the 2008 deficit was much more than that..Bushlite did not incl -- CavBank Fri Nov 20 2009 8:41:16 AM |
I suppose it's impossible to have a discussion on here without... -- Joey Wahoo Fri Nov 20 2009 8:55:31 AM |
I continue to be amused by some of the reactions to discussion -- Galileo24 Fri Nov 20 2009 11:00:12 AM |
We are very close to the point where it cannot be fixed ** -- sarmartig Fri Nov 20 2009 11:22:01 AM |
I think we've passed the point of no return. Unfunded liabilities too great to -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:35:57 AM |
The New Deal and The Great Society to Destroy America. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:36:29 PM |
In your distorted world the GOP has nothing to do with this. No OIF, drug -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 1:40:11 PM |
Last I checked, the GOP didn't sponsor The Great Society or The New Deal. -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 2:39:45 PM |
Joey you know the game, just obfuscate into politics to avoid discussing facts. -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 9:10:18 AM |
So are you or are you not bothered by this staggering number? -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 8:48:14 AM |
We need new leadershipm that isn't beholden to special interests. Good luck -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 8:54:56 AM |
I'd rather waste my breath calling for new leadership than ......... -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 9:02:25 AM |
The only way out: Go to Vegas and put what's left on "00" ** -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 7:48:29 AM |
Consider the incredible amount of interest for which we're now on the hook -- Joey Wahoo Fri Nov 20 2009 7:40:06 AM |
Print more money and send it to China & lets call it even :) ** -- B-Lam Fri Nov 20 2009 7:39:23 AM |
This is why I get upset about the length of the bills -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 10:08:46 PM |
The $100M is what bothers me! They should be shot! ** -- HSCHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 10:44:41 PM |
This has been going on forever. It's just now that's it's being reported -- wahoo,M.D. Fri Nov 20 2009 6:28:23 AM |
They say "Prositution is the oldest professionj" -- Wahoo Ron Fri Nov 20 2009 8:22:18 AM |
Question: Is ObamaCare (for sake of argument, we'll call it that) repeal-able? ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 10:07:39 PM |
Repeat of 1938 election after FDR & Ds raised taxes-GOP gained 80 seats due to -- SRFord Fri Nov 20 2009 11:34:09 AM |
As "repealable" as Social Sercurity and Medicare... -- Hokie5150 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:51:55 AM |
Has any entitlement program ever been repealed? ** -- kingralf Fri Nov 20 2009 8:12:14 AM |
Can it? Yes. Will it? No. political suicide to try. -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 7:53:18 AM |
Almost impossible because it would be filibustered - need 60 votes, or a 20 -- TriplHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 7:52:21 AM |
Even if the GOP did reach 60, an Obama veto would require 67 ** -- Wahoo Ron Fri Nov 20 2009 8:08:27 AM |
I was assuming post-2012 repeal effort. ** -- TriplHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 10:02:47 AM |
Young scorpions need to be crushed eariy on -- Wahoo Ron Fri Nov 20 2009 7:51:41 AM |
Why don't we call the current program "InsuranceWelfareCare" for sake of truth ** -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:13:03 PM |
Sorry..meant...InsuranceCompanyWelfareCare ** -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:15:40 PM |
You should definitely check out Cuba or Venezuela. ** -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 12:57:59 AM |
He'd love it, do they have internet? ** -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 9:14:28 AM |
Hopefully for us they don't. ** -- Tiki Time Fri Nov 20 2009 9:39:19 AM |
Sure..But the GOP is gutless when really cutting programs -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:11:02 PM |
Do you have to have a GOP-bashing response in every thread?? -- Bacon Thu Nov 19 2009 11:36:46 PM |
Oh, I can bash BO, too. He nees to live up to campaign promise to get out -- CavBank Fri Nov 20 2009 8:44:42 AM |
What he doesn't understand is most of us aren't fighting that battle. -- kail123 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:03:47 AM |
Name a federal gov't program that has been repealed and -- BocaHoo91 Thu Nov 19 2009 10:09:25 PM |
Tariff of Abominations ** -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 10:37:16 PM |
Cal Berkeley to raise tuition 32%, wtf? -- Charleston Cav Thu Nov 19 2009 7:33:53 PM |
California is a good example of what happens after 30 years if the GOP (Ronnie) -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:09:32 PM |
OMG, Cav, you are absolutely smokin' crack. Do you know ANYTHING about CA??? ** -- HoosADaddy Fri Nov 20 2009 9:53:11 AM |
I can tell by his post: no. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:34:15 AM |
Now, this is funny... ** -- Hokie5150 Fri Nov 20 2009 8:53:33 AM |
Not fair, CavBank. It's a result of everybody getttign what they wanted, and -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 7:29:12 AM |
It's because of 1 thing. Too many Democrats. ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:31:12 PM |
Gimme, gimme, gimme eventually has a price -- capwater Fri Nov 20 2009 7:51:41 AM |
A comment like this just shows that you don't have a clue, especially about CA. -- CA Cav Thu Nov 19 2009 10:21:02 PM |
Then you'll like this stat...when education is factored in for the middle class, -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:05:12 PM |
I think it will still be hugely subsidized ** -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 9:59:44 PM |
Go dig Howard Jarvis up and yell at him ** -- NJHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 9:46:03 PM |
Howard Jarvis is one of the biggest heros for California. Needed more of Jarvis ** -- HOO86 Fri Nov 20 2009 1:32:31 PM |
Nt entirely to blame, Prop 13 pays a big role in CA's mess. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 7:30:05 AM |
That's a very cool way of approaching conservative principles -- HooBear Thu Nov 19 2009 8:51:33 PM |
I too am a big proponent of education as the great equalizer, -- BocaHoo91 Thu Nov 19 2009 9:33:15 PM |
Posted this below to supplement the discussion -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 10:13:22 PM |
Wow, I guess I underestimated how expensive it is to live in -- BocaHoo91 Fri Nov 20 2009 7:12:23 AM |
In most cases good public universities subsidize the wealthy. Need based scholar -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:29:18 PM |
That makes no sense at all. But what else is new.... ** -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 11:48:24 PM |
Actually..who is lip-locked on the teat are the corporations who pay no taxes in -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 10:07:50 PM |
Wrong again, companies are fleeing California because of poor business climate ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:25:00 PM |
That's "Kuhlifornia". Right, SR? ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 10:10:44 PM |
Yes, spanish name, spanish pronounication ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:27:29 PM |
Yep. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:52:37 PM |
Although, you just called that conservative "Amigo". Watch it. ;-) ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:53:05 PM |
You used to be in NorCal? Sharing way too much info. -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 8:46:38 PM |
Well, it's currently only around $7,000 per year to go to UC Berkeley in state -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 7:58:43 PM |
Heres something that gives a slightly more apllicable cost analysis -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 8:06:01 PM |
I agree with you but on the other hand, UCLA is a public school. -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 7:38:12 PM |
Think thats upsetting, check this out -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 7:59:33 PM |
Your link is upsetting.... but is $500K divied up between -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:09:53 PM |
I dont disagree with your point at all but at the same time -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 8:26:57 PM |
It's terrible but that's what's going on in the public and private sector -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:44:36 PM |
And here I am trying to preach to the choir. I don't pretend to know what I'm -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 9:45:03 PM |
I think we agree on this. I am a business owner so I am alwyas looking for -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 9:21:45 PM |
Another point to consider... Do you know how much money Casteen has raised for -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:52:03 PM |
I would also. Its amazing what someone with the right angle to his/her ideas is -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 9:28:19 PM |
Yep. Good article on him in the DP... -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 10:02:33 PM |
California's deficit, that is. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:10:37 PM |
Sorry to double post, but I'm also wondering if all of those -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 7:44:35 PM |
Bad situation all around, I wonder if tenured professors are willing to take -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 7:42:46 PM |
In California? ;-) ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 7:44:12 PM |
To quote Clay Davis: -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 7:46:09 PM |
LOL. Best show in the history of television, IMHO. ** -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 9:18:38 PM |
Maybe 2nd best show in the history of television. -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 9:55:38 PM |
How about this: BOB = best mini-series; The Wire = best regular show? -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 11:46:28 PM |
Deficit neutral vs. cost neutral ... -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 6:05:15 PM |
I don't know how much stock I put in the opinion of physicians on h/c policy -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 11:58:20 PM |
Large tax increases with U6 unemployment at 17.5% os stupid ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:35:53 PM |
Exactly, and they keep talking about "cost controls" -- HoosYourDaddy003 Thu Nov 19 2009 8:03:18 PM |
This sucks. ** -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 6:31:38 PM |
I guess Sen Lugar's wife will be looking for a liberal judge now -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 6:03:51 PM |
Why not attack Betty Ford next? ** -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 10:26:54 PM |
Or Maria Shriver? ** -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 10:27:19 PM |
Or other Republicans' wives who've had problems with alcohol or driving? ** -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 10:28:30 PM |
I'm sure they'll try to argue it was a medication imbalance -- NorfolkHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 9:27:29 PM |
I respect Lugar as much as I do anyone in either party -- HooBear Thu Nov 19 2009 8:46:28 PM |
More sad than humorous. -- DanTheFan Thu Nov 19 2009 6:23:07 PM |
I agree also....and if the shoe were on the foot or the bottle in the other -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 6:50:50 PM |
Of course they would, you idiot. DUIs are not a laughing matter. If you went to -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 6:53:36 PM |
I had no idea one had to attend UVa to understand DUIs....sorry...I did NOT -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 8:53:16 PM |
No, I'm sorry for calling you an idiot. Uncalled for. My apologies -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 9:02:48 PM |
No problem. Don't get another. I have this standing offer to friends AND my son' -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 9:46:14 PM |
Thanks, CB. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 9:49:06 PM |
I agree. ** -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 6:47:00 PM |
Yep. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 6:51:06 PM |
In it szeal to ban gay marriage, TX accidentally bans all marriage -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:03:18 PM |
Government needs to stay out of telling people how to live their -- Galileo24 Thu Nov 19 2009 10:12:10 PM |
They should remove the term 'marriage' from all legal documents -- HooBauer Fri Nov 20 2009 9:20:37 AM |
With you on this one ** -- hatetheturtle Fri Nov 20 2009 9:21:24 AM |
Dang, those Texans are smarter than I thought. -- Galileo24 Thu Nov 19 2009 6:35:41 PM |
Pretty extreme to ban "traditional" marriage just to prevent same sex marriage ** -- CODCHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 6:33:26 PM |
Funny that they're intolerant and they're idiots too! ** -- CODCHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 6:44:57 PM |
I'd like to know where cvillerat is whining about Hood posting a link??? ** -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:12:44 PM |
Que? ** -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:17:02 PM |
Jorge Bush darĂa a los homosexuales una buena paliza si aĂºn gobernador ** -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 5:40:49 PM |
Esto.................... -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:36:11 PM |
Holding on to a grudge, hu? ** -- hatetheturtle Thu Nov 19 2009 6:04:09 PM |
There goes the little man with the word hate in his name attempting to practice -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 9:36:01 PM |
Huh? Man, some of you guys are sensitive, ** -- hatetheturtle Fri Nov 20 2009 9:14:51 AM |
I've openly stated I'm a biased poster - what more do you want? ** -- cvillerat Thu Nov 19 2009 10:29:56 PM |
Consistency. I have no issue with you being partisan. It's a political -- Teflon Fri Nov 20 2009 4:56:22 PM |
Who cares? I'm looking for comment on my post -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:44:04 PM |
Well it appears the attorney that's making the stink was in the Texas -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:56:18 PM |
Radnofsky? Per Wiki, she ran against and lost to Hutchison in '06 -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 6:39:41 PM |
I'm not sure I understand your question. What does her running against KBH have -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 9:30:07 PM |
Sorry, my point being that she was not in the state legislature... her claim to -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 9:48:15 PM |
You know vw I was reading a Fort Worth ST article about it and it quotes -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 10:00:28 PM |
A strange thing for her to say, then. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 10:03:22 PM |
Here's my thoughts, civil unions. -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 5:51:57 PM |
Exactly, Make'em all civil unions from a legal pov -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 7:03:21 PM |
Completely agree with you and HAZER. Such a simple and fair idea. ** -- HooBear Thu Nov 19 2009 8:48:12 PM |
Fazio from Oregon has some interesting things to say here. 2 questions -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:21:01 PM |
Try again with link this time -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:22:08 PM |
ClusterFox rigging the news again (link) -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 3:55:47 PM |
I always stand in constant amazement at the lack of decency -- Shenhoo Fri Nov 20 2009 12:26:00 PM |
Slacker. why were you silent when your leftist MSNBC did the same thing? ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 6:20:04 PM |
Bec MSNBC doesn't claim to be "fair and balanced" Faux a bunch of hypocrites ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 7:24:29 PM |
Your hero, Al Gore photoshopped cover of his new book. Whine about that ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:30:30 PM |
My hero? Link any post I have ever made in which I mention Gore. Don't think I -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 7:34:10 AM |
Link -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:36:16 PM |
Link= how much does your buddy Soros pay people to watch FOX and nitpick? ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:33:02 PM |
True- unfortunately LESS THAN THE OTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!! ** -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 8:52:42 PM |
Trying to catch the NEW YORK TIMES ... -- The 24 Car Thu Nov 19 2009 5:54:15 PM |
In other words... king of the losers? That's great! ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:55:45 PM |
They'll get theres after the Great Leader nationalizes media. ** -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 5:35:01 PM |
Re: ClusterFox rigs news again, apologizes (linked now) -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:24:03 PM |
Wow NorCal, that's big news. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Just so -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:08:24 PM |
Aha! So you acknowledge Faux is partisan. Otherwise you wouldn't consider this -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:18:26 PM |
Are you upset that FOX balance out the biased reporting of your favorite leftist -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 6:22:40 PM |
Of course they're partisan...........DUH ** -- DAMHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:32:04 PM |
I think one would have to be an ostrich with their head in the sand or Rip Van -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:28:52 PM |
Don't spoil his fun. He thought he had a gotcha moment there. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:33:02 PM |
Kinda like the spambots posting about Gore and the earths temperature? -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:13:22 PM |
As someone who likes Gore, I'd have to say he deserves all the grief he gets -- Galileo24 Thu Nov 19 2009 10:22:19 PM |
You could use a little maturity yourself ** -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 8:54:32 PM |
I haven't posted anything about Gore and the earth's temperature so I have no -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:24:05 PM |
Or Dan Rather and Peter Jennings making things up out of whole cloth? -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:18:58 PM |
Or Fox making up news day in, day out? -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:31:24 PM |
What news doesn't get a response of people when one turns on hte camera? that's -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 8:56:14 PM |
And then there's this from ABC -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:53:08 PM |
Umm...where is the left wing bias in this? ** -- AngusHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:47:32 PM |
I don't think there is any left wing bias - I think it was sloppy -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 9:39:30 PM |
Wait, this is your big gotcha? -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 7:23:17 PM |
Well according to you the only media that makes errors is Fox. You said Rather -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 9:41:14 PM |
I said nothing of the sort ** -- Hood Fri Nov 20 2009 11:34:29 AM |
More from CBS............... -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:46:18 PM |
Well, Hoodie.... -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:44:17 PM |
Rather has been kicked to the curb and Jennings is dead. ** -- DiHOOgenes Thu Nov 19 2009 11:46:15 PM |
It always bothers me, Doogie, when journos run amuck -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 7:14:13 PM |
Disturbed that journalists from the -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 7:30:03 PM |
I will request, for the umpteenth time-Show me all this -- AngusHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:43:40 PM |
Here ya go: -- Doug Fri Nov 20 2009 8:27:52 AM |
Only the most obtuse, kool aid drinkers among us would even ask for a link. Most -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 9:50:21 PM |
We can show it but you have to register it in your beta cells- check out Harvard -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 8:58:45 PM |
Just show links man, it cant be that difficult if there is that much -- AngusHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 9:11:48 PM |
Yes, "amuck". You know, the word in the dictionary. -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 7:43:48 PM |
What nonsense.... -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 8:11:43 PM |
Yawn.
ht -- Hood Fri Nov 20 2009 12:02:22 PM |
Wonderful job dodging all the quotes listed below -- Doug Fri Nov 20 2009 12:56:45 PM |
This is why you can never be taken seriously. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 7:53:47 PM |
LOL. Coming from you, that's richer than Scrooge McDuck ** -- Hood Fri Nov 20 2009 4:13:46 PM |
Doug, there is for some reason a set of blinders on these guys -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 6:23:14 PM |
And yet, without them, no one would have exposed ACORN, Van Jones, and Anita -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:35:46 PM |
Yes, and I'm sure this board was quiet as a mouse when Rather-Gate erupted. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:20:06 PM |
This board may not have been [quiet]. But I'm guessing you -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:23:34 PM |
Gladly, if only the archives went back that far. You didn't know that? ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:29:35 PM |
Wonderful. Then paraphrase your outrage at Rather and Jennings so we might -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:35:19 PM |
Admittedly, I wasn't really outraged... -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:43:54 PM |
Thanks for conceding that your outrage respecting various -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:50:31 PM |
I have no problem with conceding that. That still doesn't mean -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:54:12 PM |
Then elaborate. Provide facts. A semblance of outrage. Anything. Before we all -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 6:03:54 PM |
Do you honestly think anyone else is reading this garbage sub-thread besides you -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 6:18:34 PM |
Oh Well, but our colloquy commenced -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 6:59:16 PM |
That's not what I said. -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 7:21:04 PM |
Sorry, but I'm not believin' it. You compare imagined (in your feverish bin) Fox -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 7:41:00 PM |
Have a good one, Doug. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 7:50:02 PM |
You, too. Get your gear together in the interim though. ** -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 8:16:06 PM |
LOL! I'll do my best. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:25:22 PM |
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! ** -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 5:38:48 PM |
Still waiting.... ** -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:27:06 PM |
I'm sure you are... ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:30:05 PM |
You can count on it. Similarly, you can count on the fact that you've offered no -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:36:59 PM |
Another honest mistake. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 4:58:20 PM |
Kinda like the administration rigging the stimulus employment numbers huh ** -- DAMHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:45:58 PM |
Uh, no. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:47:37 PM |
Nice polysyllabic post. Care to elaborate? ** -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 5:29:47 PM |
Uh, no. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 6:04:20 PM |
Thanks for the admission. No smiley face. Got something -- Doug Thu Nov 19 2009 7:04:41 PM |
So you equate a TV network misleading viewers -- DAMHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 6:36:18 PM |
Pssst...they are rigging, they aren't lying ** -- 111Balz Thu Nov 19 2009 10:45:58 PM |
Psst answer the question................... ** -- DAMHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 4:50:41 PM |
Sorry "aren't" for both ** -- 111Balz Fri Nov 20 2009 7:47:30 AM |
No? ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 4:58:37 PM |
No. Why waste the bandwidth. ** -- NorCalHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 11:38:20 AM |
I echo that, NO? ** -- DAMHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:22:21 PM |
(BTW, fix your link) ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:00:07 PM |
It's missing the "ht" from "http" ** -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 5:02:34 PM |
Hmm, so anyone can make a mistake, right? ** -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:08:27 PM |
I suppose... but over and over again? They're starting to get Colbertish. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:14:22 PM |
From what I've heard, newspapers have regular Correction columns, even the NYT -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:18:30 PM |
True. But we're not talking about newspapers. We're not even talking about news. -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:25:59 PM |
FNC has the utmost credibility with me. ** -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:42:22 PM |
That's something we'll never agree on so we'll, again, agree to disagree. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:45:47 PM |
Or labeling GOP officials as Dems when they do things Faux doesn't like -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:25:53 PM |
Ah, right you are. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 5:05:38 PM |
Becoming par for the course for that "news" station ** -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 4:39:46 PM |
They're so bad that the President even gave them a little interview the other -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:10:40 PM |
Yup. Gracious of him, considering that Fox has called him a racist.... -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:11:47 PM |
At least be honest with your comments Hood..Beck said that not Fox ** -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 6:42:24 PM |
He said that on a FoxNews program and is paid by Fox ** -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 7:08:09 PM |
So that is the way it works. That means I can sue USA Network -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 7:33:14 PM |
Exactly. FoxNews is all opinion. It's not fair and balanced. Thx! ** -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 7:35:31 PM |
I ask again for you to be honest. Fox did not say that Beck did -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 7:53:02 PM |
Hasn't the case been made here, time and time again, that CBS bears -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:16:24 PM |
CBS bears none of it because they did what I expected them to do -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 8:43:14 PM |
Agreed with everything you just said. ** -- vwahoov Thu Nov 19 2009 8:49:57 PM |
"We may not get back to full employment for a decade" -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 1:51:56 PM |
I just cannot be convinced that you can sustain an economy on -- Galileo24 Thu Nov 19 2009 10:20:04 PM |
Employment will only increase if it will benefit employers. Too much risk now. ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 2:02:43 PM |
The fact that Wall Street punishes comopanies for W-2 headcount is a huge factor ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:57:10 PM |
I have absolutely no idea what you mean, are you talking about stock -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 3:29:58 PM |
See comments further down, BIL. My friend, you and I strongly share the same -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:52:48 PM |
(1) I'm not sure "Wall Street" cares all that much whether a company -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 5:02:52 PM |
Share price. WS rewards for use of contractors, punishes for full time -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 3:53:58 PM |
But if you are a contractor are you not employed? -- RML Hoos Thu Nov 19 2009 4:45:57 PM |
Yes, but the "contractee is not on the hook for benefits, employer FICA, -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:49:37 PM |
I must be dense. I have no clue what you are talking about in this thread. ** -- HootiesJohnson Thu Nov 19 2009 4:02:14 PM |
See my comments to others in this thread. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:53:20 PM |
Think IT jobs ....... ** -- capwater Thu Nov 19 2009 4:10:18 PM |
BMW Greenville SC just added 700 hc and a second shift, all contractor, -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:51:10 PM |
Still not clicking. How does WS reward use of contractors? ** -- HootiesJohnson Thu Nov 19 2009 4:24:02 PM |
I'll use an example. good friend is VPM of a F500 transp co. tells me rev -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:47:13 PM |
Yup, still makes no sense. -- HootiesJohnson Thu Nov 19 2009 5:59:30 PM |
The downside to being a service based economy. ** -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 1:56:34 PM |
Part of it, another big part is the "stacked against you" environment -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 2:11:48 PM |
Hear hear. We find ways to get back to making stuff or we're screwed. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:58:12 PM |
Can you do that without more protectionist trade policies? ** -- hawkb Thu Nov 19 2009 2:00:59 PM |
Isn't that the rub? our wages + regulatory environment -- BuckHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:04:35 PM |
Yeah, if we find ways to manufacture things more efficiently. -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 2:02:03 PM |
Can Americans work for less and afford health care? ** -- Shenhoo Thu Nov 19 2009 3:52:24 PM |
Hard to get lower than 55 cents in China.... -- fphoo Thu Nov 19 2009 3:26:03 PM |
Some of both, + right tax, investment, social, environmental policies, etc. -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:56:16 PM |
The federal government is becomming more and more of a burdon as well. ** -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 3:31:23 PM |
Has been for a long time. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 3:54:31 PM |
War is not Conservative by Rep. John J. Duncan, Jr. (R-Tenn.) -- Joey Wahoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:27:04 PM |
It is interesting to see the reactions. Duncan is exactly right. Conservative -- Galileo24 Thu Nov 19 2009 10:17:03 PM |
I agree, not so much because of the costs, but because interventionist foreign -- Teflon Thu Nov 19 2009 3:23:40 PM |
Joey - here are some earlier thoughts from the S'box faithful on the matter. -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 1:55:39 PM |
Interesting. I typed a response and dialed out. -- Shenhoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:00:05 PM |
(Stands up and cheers - yeah!!) Finally a voice of reason from teh right. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:51:50 PM |
Hell, let's get rid of the military all together. All it's doing is adding to -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 1:44:19 PM |
Having a strong military to defend the country is a bedrock -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:01:05 PM |
Agree to disagree ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 2:02:25 PM |
Its like agreeing to disagree that 2+2+4. those are simply -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:10:32 PM |
I'm not really sure where these conservative principles are defined -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 2:16:16 PM |
= ** -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:12:50 PM |
You know you waste $5.99 a month. ** -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 1:51:35 PM |
Ya gotta give 'em credit, when the Republicans are out of power, -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 1:36:53 PM |
Rep. Duncan was one of a handful of Republicans who voted against... -- Joey Wahoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:42:46 PM |
Excellent, didn't remember any did. If Hil had, she'd be pres now. -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 1:48:54 PM |
BO did not only because he was not in congress ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 2:00:30 PM |
Blame it on Buckley...Seriously -- hawkb Thu Nov 19 2009 1:59:48 PM |
What huge military do you speak of? -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:04:29 PM |
AOL offering buyouts to ALL employees -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 12:52:14 PM |
That is certainly tempting if you have another job lined up ** -- Grimlock Thu Nov 19 2009 1:22:25 PM |
Did Holder refuse to discuss conflict of interest by DOJ attorneys on NYC trials -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 10:17:56 AM |
The lawyers defending some of these killers should be ashamed of themselves. -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 10:29:55 AM |
Not a big fan of the Sixth Amendment, I see? Perhaps we should just have -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 8:02:22 PM |
Lawyer you say, honesty too tough ** -- turk Thu Nov 19 2009 9:00:08 PM |
Come again, Yoda? ** -- WahooRQ Thu Nov 19 2009 9:19:39 PM |
We should let a king or queen decide guilt or innocence...and then lynch them if -- CavBank Thu Nov 19 2009 11:58:09 AM |
Obama has already said they will get a fair trial, conviction and death penalty. ** -- Texas Hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:07:27 PM |
Actually it was that complainers won't find it: -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 12:12:05 PM |
As if Bush's military tribunals would have been otherwise. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:24:29 PM |
How do you figure that? The military trials are done behind the scene -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 12:42:38 PM |
You damned well know BushCo would have made those tribunals a running promo for -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:54:14 PM |
Maybe the results but there would have been no media fest -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:08:21 PM |
Ha! BushCo owuld have had a controlled, contrived media fest to broadcast -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:57:05 PM |
True, they're both show trials, because they're unquestionably guilty and even -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 12:27:15 PM |
They are not unquestionably guilty. Guilt, in the context of a trial, -- Howdy-Hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:04:20 PM |
Does that suggest you would have been happy to let BushCo put on this show -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:30:02 PM |
No, I was referring to KSM putting on the show. -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 1:49:23 PM |
I repeat, a military trial is not a dog and pony show. -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 12:44:58 PM |
BusCo would have made it a dog and pony show. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:55:36 PM |
Is this an admission that Obama and the libs are doing the same thing? ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 2:06:37 PM |
Counterpoin tto the accusation that Obama and the libs are doing the same thing ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:59:38 PM |
So Obama and the libs ARE grandstanding? ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:15:04 PM |
That's the claim that started this. Mine is the counter claim. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:27:22 PM |
So your belief is that Obama is NOT grandstanding by trying GITMOs, etc. in -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:39:25 PM |
I am no bush fan -- usafuva Thu Nov 19 2009 2:01:51 PM |
Nope. Providing fair and balanced editorial commentary. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:58:13 PM |
The syndrome lives on....this guy cant post without mentioning W ** -- TomKazanski Thu Nov 19 2009 4:38:25 PM |
He may be gone but his legacy lives on ... ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:00:33 PM |
Hey, you better watch out. Bush has his own Institute now. -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:13:30 PM |
LOL. Well played ryno ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:21:31 PM |
I would rather combatants be tried by the military than a criminal court so -- Texas Hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:39:12 PM |
I would too but only if we treat them as POWs under the geneva convention ** -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:11:35 PM |
Serious question KC, doesnt that require them to have fought -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 1:48:09 PM |
There is a grey area IMO as to whether the can get the rights under the -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:06:51 PM |
Thank you ** -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:31:21 PM |
Hoo coined the term "enemy combatant," and what exactly does it mean? ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:57:01 PM |
I could be off on my verbiage there. I was in a rush and could be -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:33:58 PM |
Hmmm -- usafuva Thu Nov 19 2009 2:10:23 PM |
Yup! ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 5:28:42 PM |
I for one am concerned about (1) the costs involved, (2) the chance -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 12:33:16 PM |
Ryno, if you really believe that you simply do not grasp America's system of -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:20:16 AM |
Not to get all elitest and such but a thread started by hookem.................. -- Chuck Taylor Thu Nov 19 2009 12:03:33 PM |
Unlike the terrorists' military counsel, the Covington & Burling libs didn't -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 11:39:50 AM |
That's what I'm talking about. -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:10:31 PM |
If I'm defense counsel I fight like hell for my client. That's the way our -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:28:41 PM |
As a defense counsel would be effective if you became prosecutor in same case? ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 1:47:47 PM |
The reasons have been expressed here over and over again and throughout the -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 1:05:00 PM |
The "reasons" are right wing nut case bull hockey. ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:46:59 PM |
We'll see what the American public thinks about that. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 1:50:57 PM |
Should we have had the Nuremburg trials? -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 1:08:54 PM |
What about the tens of thousands of family members of those civilians in Iraq -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 1:21:16 PM |
Or, alternatively, we can just ignore your panty-twisting.... -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 3:22:28 PM |
Well, if that is the conclusion, why try him at all? Let's just fry him right -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:24:18 PM |
Uhhhh...... -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 5:34:22 PM |
Did dat one fwy wight ovah yuh head too? -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 5:47:50 PM |
You didn't really answer his question. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:23:17 PM |
Nothing gets by you. ** -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 1:30:56 PM |
Also represent Haliburton. Damn liberals! ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:51:16 AM |
And Philip Morris -- commies, the lot of them! ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:51:40 AM |
They have to represent someone to offset the 3,000 hours of free, top flight -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 12:25:05 PM |
The point -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:37:44 PM |
C&B has a reputation of being very liberal, I'm sure like all firms -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 12:50:20 PM |
Just to clarify -- this is the C&B that counts John Bolton, Michael Chertoff -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:19:11 PM |
C&B is a classic DC insider firm -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 4:41:08 PM |
If you ask any competent attorney to list their 5 most "liberal" firms -- 2011BIL Thu Nov 19 2009 7:14:18 PM |
I'm a competent attorney, and I say -- NaturalMysticHoo Fri Nov 20 2009 9:59:27 AM |
Yep -- I have radar vision when it comes to spotting empty suits. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 1:36:26 PM |
Put another way, -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:28:18 PM |
Yeah, God forbid those people get counsel -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 12:28:17 PM |
It is unethical for lawyer to oppose former client in same case- ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:25:28 AM |
Which is precisely why it won't happen here. -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:48:07 AM |
Read link first-Holder refused to answer the question. Why if no conflict? -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 12:36:52 PM |
Because providing a list of recusals and the reasons therefor..... -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 1:07:38 PM |
Why, it is done all the time in other cases. DOJ already knows & are a party. -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 1:51:24 PM |
I read it. That's how I was able to conclude that, once again, you don't know -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:42:37 PM |
Lawyers and ashamed don't even go in the same sentence together. There are many, -- kingralf Thu Nov 19 2009 10:50:30 AM |
Like what? ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:05:31 AM |
Watched tv sometime and see some of the ambulance chasing ads. ** -- kingralf Thu Nov 19 2009 3:42:45 PM |
Because a handful of ambulance chasers are representative of all lawyers -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 4:42:58 PM |
Ashamed because they are defending them? -- RML Hoos Thu Nov 19 2009 10:48:38 AM |
Nope, for representing both sides in same case ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:26:51 AM |
You beat me to it RML. But history & our system of justice is lost on them. ** -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 11:02:52 AM |
Even the ones who are captured on the battlefield, in a foreign country, -- kingralf Thu Nov 19 2009 10:53:42 AM |
Not if we treat them as POWs. You don't pring a POW to court though. -- RML Hoos Thu Nov 19 2009 4:42:12 PM |
If we chose to bring them here and treat them as criminals -- yes -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 10:58:59 AM |
That's why it's ignorant to bring them here. DUH ** -- kingralf Thu Nov 19 2009 3:40:40 PM |
KSM captured in Pakistan, I think in Quetta or Islamabad ** -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 10:56:31 AM |
Don't you get it? -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 10:51:20 AM |
No the don't get that this is about US.......................................... -- Chuck Taylor Thu Nov 19 2009 12:09:25 PM |
Last I checked, KSM is not a U.S. citizen. It's pretty simple. ** -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 3:02:26 PM |
Maybe if we treat him like one, they will like us? ** -- HooBauer Thu Nov 19 2009 4:10:42 PM |
Exactly. What a bunch of b.s. ** -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 4:29:23 PM |
Why you hate America/ ** -- NorCalHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 6:06:50 PM |
I would like to keep American rights to just us Americans, problem? ** -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 6:45:35 PM |
Both sides in same case? has to be conflict. ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 11:29:34 AM |
Just in time for Black Friday... -- crooked road Thu Nov 19 2009 8:26:12 AM |
BTTS- not a ban, just regulation. :) ** -- ryno hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:55:00 AM |
Actually, bans sale of 75% of TVs in Calif.--virtually all plasmas. -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 2:28:45 PM |
I thought Dr. Paul's FED audit idea would never pass. -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 8:16:12 AM |
As expected a last minute amendment makes it worthless -- black dog Thu Nov 19 2009 9:27:46 AM |
Denninger's take -- HireGrobeFireGroh Thu Nov 19 2009 10:44:38 AM |
What are you talking about? This is clearly a Democrat idea! -- Hokie5150 Thu Nov 19 2009 9:25:19 AM |
I never thought deficit would exceed $1.4 trillion ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:17:19 AM |
Federal Coercion -- capwater Thu Nov 19 2009 6:58:05 AM |
What will be more interesting is the press treatment of the the hospital that -- 81_Hokie Thu Nov 19 2009 8:14:52 AM |
The Constitution is some 4 pages long. The senate HC bill is 2074 pages. -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 12:12:42 AM |
I'm certain there are many, many members of Congress who've never read either. ** -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 9:53:13 AM |
I realize this is just a Radio talking point, but trying to understand why you -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 9:34:43 AM |
My assumption is that people are just extremely frustrated that its length makes -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 1:51:21 PM |
From what I have read, these Bills are full of legalize referring from one sub- -- Lazarus Thu Nov 19 2009 1:58:11 PM |
This kind of stuff doesnt give me more trust, only less -- thor9hammer Thu Nov 19 2009 9:48:22 PM |
Yeah, and I skip all the FAR stuff in my contracts. -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 2:55:56 PM |
Blessed be the naysayers though they suffer through Obama, eh? -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:40:50 AM |
Loopholes. -- crooked road Thu Nov 19 2009 8:27:20 AM |
Loophole argument works both ways. -- FxHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 9:51:05 AM |
Trivia question. what movie? -- Wahoo Ron Thu Nov 19 2009 7:37:52 AM |
WTG,, trav ** -- Wahoo Ron Thu Nov 19 2009 8:09:08 AM |
Jurrasic Park ** -- Traveller Thu Nov 19 2009 8:06:37 AM |
Toilet paper ** -- DAMHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 6:58:05 AM |
#$%^&* Gov. Kaine closing the $%&*((## rest areas!!!!!!!!!! -- 1995hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 12:06:51 AM |
Budget cost reduction is often a game of nickels and dimes. -- Hood Thu Nov 19 2009 10:55:47 AM |
Agree. Why not make them tolls?? -- Uncle Ronnie Thu Nov 19 2009 10:05:43 AM |
Agreed. ** -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 3:00:16 PM |
Who's going to pay to use the toilet when there are gas stations and restaurants -- DiHOOgenes Thu Nov 19 2009 11:34:08 AM |
These places could also start requiring a purchase to use their bathrooms. ** -- Hoo SB Thu Nov 19 2009 11:43:44 AM |
Why would they do that? ** -- DiHOOgenes Thu Nov 19 2009 12:25:44 PM |
Why wouldn't they? -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 2:59:31 PM |
Maybe because they know there are enough suckers like you who will buy that coke ** -- DiHOOgenes Thu Nov 19 2009 3:54:30 PM |
Maybe they're hoping white trash won't drop a deuce w/o buying something? ** -- HAZER Thu Nov 19 2009 4:31:39 PM |
That's the risk they run. Ever hear the phrase "get them in the door?" ** -- DiHOOgenes Thu Nov 19 2009 11:48:35 PM |
Give me a diablo sandwich, a Dr. Pepper, and make it quick -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 11:55:36 AM |
Nice -- Hoo SB Thu Nov 19 2009 11:18:34 AM |
No fan of kainr but really....there are bathrooms at every exit already -- champthehoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:43:13 AM |
We were already running late as it was.... -- 1995hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 10:03:50 AM |
The bladder part was a joke. but the arguement about rest stops is weak -- champthehoo Thu Nov 19 2009 2:02:39 PM |
He has a valid point that there are fast food places/gas stations every few -- KCHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 10:29:11 AM |
Maybe because he is full of it? ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 10:19:48 AM |
Seems like an obvious call -- Stimp Thu Nov 19 2009 9:12:29 AM |
He's got to cut expenses somewhere, bad as it is... -- crooked road Thu Nov 19 2009 7:22:12 AM |
We agree on this. -- aficionadHOO Thu Nov 19 2009 9:55:01 AM |
Outsource them to a private company would actually generate revenue -- uvajmufan Thu Nov 19 2009 6:48:01 AM |
Absent some exemption, I believe federal law prohibits that. ** -- ArlHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 11:50:51 AM |
A vending machine co.? Starbucks? I think McDonnell wants to look at private -- Tiki Time Thu Nov 19 2009 8:46:21 AM |
Depends on exit. Some are more than a mile. Waste of gas and time. ** -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:43:28 AM |
It does seem like a cosmetic symbolic event...more.. -- GoochlandHoo Thu Nov 19 2009 4:47:20 AM |
Kaine's not left anything to McDonnell he's not already dealt with... -- crooked road Thu Nov 19 2009 8:34:56 AM |
Seriously how much could they be saving by closing a bathroom? ** -- kail123 Thu Nov 19 2009 1:18:57 AM |
They do not clean or maintain themselves. ** -- Automator Thu Nov 19 2009 10:15:11 AM |
Mere PR-it's just like closing Washington Monument or Warner with DMV -- SRFord Thu Nov 19 2009 9:14:39 AM |
That's just it—the figures they cited were fairly minimal in the overall budget. ** -- 1995hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:43:06 AM |
Maybe they should raise taxes so you wont $hit your pants ** -- cvillerat Thu Nov 19 2009 12:48:01 AM |
Nah, I didn't have to "sit" yesterday, thankfully. ** -- 1995hoo Thu Nov 19 2009 8:43:29 AM |
Whatever happned to pay toilets? You know," Pay as you go" ** -- Wahoo Ron Thu Nov 19 2009 5:55:55 AM |
Stimulus question -- usafuva Wed Nov 18 2009 10:58:18 PM |
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