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| Subject: You mean in the sense that the court is a government entity? |
| Posted by: Darkstar on Fri Feb 17 2012 3:03:18 PM |
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Well, yes, they'd get involved if someone sued. And they'd rule in
favor of the church. The idea that the government would force churches to marry gay couples is a red herring of the highest order. Churches already make judgements on who to marry and who not to marry. My wife and I had to go through several counseling sessions before we could get married by the pastor of the church I grew up in, and I've known him just about my whole life. And we didn't even get married in the church - we trucked him up to the Chapel. Catholic churches routinely turn down couples because one of them is divorced. We allow churches great freedom in deciding who and who not to marry, and we'll continue to do so if gay marriage is legalized. And it's absolutely correct that we do. |
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Kudos to Dick Cheney. He's apparently lobbying quietly for marriage equality. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:06:10 PM |
Sorry but I can't get all sentimental about Dick's views on this as............ -- Chuck Taylor Fri Feb 17 2012 7:53:01 PM |
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Let me get on my soapbox here for a minute. First, -- Hoobedoobedoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:18:36 PM |
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I give credit to the former VPOTUS as well, and also agree with your point -- HooBear Fri Feb 17 2012 7:57:33 PM |
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Repubs are more philanthropic than Dems... -- Jim C Fri Feb 17 2012 9:28:59 PM |
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Those numbers are a lot closer when you exclude church giving. -- HooBear Sat Feb 18 2012 3:44:29 PM |
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No way! ** -- NJHoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:09:02 PM |
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Huffpost has details. It doesn't catch me completely off guard though. -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:18:41 PM |
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If I've heard (and remember) correctly, one of Cheney's -- Doug Fri Feb 17 2012 2:26:46 PM |
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Yet Cheney didn't mind making it a wedge issue in 2004, to help -- HoosWillWin Fri Feb 17 2012 3:27:12 PM |
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I agree. The only answer to this peice of the culture war -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:36:13 PM |
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No. Get the government out of marriage whether it is federal or state -- Galileo24 Fri Feb 17 2012 7:25:32 PM |
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I'm not sure I agree. There should be no difference in the tax code, for -- 81_Hokie Fri Feb 17 2012 3:43:19 PM |
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Civil union from the government, marriage from the churches or -- KCHoo Fri Feb 17 2012 4:02:03 PM |
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Re: Civil union from the government, marriage from the churches or -- Worlord Fri Feb 17 2012 5:54:21 PM |
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You and KC got it exactly right. Hoo cares what some church does, as long -- HooBear Sat Feb 18 2012 3:50:10 PM |
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Answers: no and nobody. ** -- Doug Fri Feb 17 2012 3:56:55 PM |
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So you're saying family members shouldn't be covered under the primary insured's -- BocaHoo91 Sat Feb 18 2012 2:27:25 AM |
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If you're going to add to the risk pool, you have to add to the -- Doug Sat Feb 18 2012 11:38:05 AM |
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Where's the free rider? I paid more for my premiums when I got married and -- BocaHoo91 Sat Feb 18 2012 1:38:12 PM |
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If that's how it works, that's fine. But my understanding is that's -- Doug Sat Feb 18 2012 9:15:51 PM |
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Those are good points. I am not sure. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:48:31 PM |
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I agree. The respective states are fully capble of dealing with marriage issues ** -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 2:37:53 PM |
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Marriage should be left up to the church; states should -- WilliePegram Fri Feb 17 2012 2:44:12 PM |
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So should my secular marriage not count? ** -- WahooRQ Fri Feb 17 2012 3:24:36 PM |
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Count for what? What benefits should accrue? Jump a broom. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:28:14 PM |
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Agree. just shouldn't be a government issue at all ** -- KCHoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:12:51 PM |
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I agree but the second the SBC or Catholic Diocese says we will not marry or -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 2:50:19 PM |
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No one can force a church to conduct equal opportunity weddings. -- WahooRQ Fri Feb 17 2012 3:27:29 PM |
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I'm sure some good liberal activist judge will someday find a way. They know -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 3:46:15 PM |
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You mean in the sense that the court is a government entity? -- Darkstar Fri Feb 17 2012 3:03:18 PM |
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That has been the case for long time but the day a court decides to go all -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 3:44:27 PM |
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Good points. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:13:05 PM |
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Also, good on ya, Mr. Cheney ** -- Darkstar Fri Feb 17 2012 3:11:42 PM |
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I deny they will. Heck, the SBC alrealdy had deemed the Mormons to be cult. -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:01:02 PM |
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If I understand correctly, marriage is on separate tracks when -- Doug Fri Feb 17 2012 2:59:51 PM |
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Much different from the health insurance for hospitals issue. This is directly -- WahooRQ Fri Feb 17 2012 3:33:32 PM |
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Winner. Well said, Mr. Pegram. ** -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:47:02 PM |
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Ugh. Why is this a government function. It's simply government's -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 2:42:28 PM |
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It's a govt function because the constitution does not prohibit the states from -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 2:47:10 PM |
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We won't agree on this. For the mean time, I'll be content to see -- Shenhoo Fri Feb 17 2012 3:07:40 PM |
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Daughter, and i agree with you but i wonder how -- 111Balz Fri Feb 17 2012 2:31:28 PM |
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Marriage rate is going down and down every year, more and more couple -- HokieJamie Fri Feb 17 2012 3:58:57 PM |
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Of course it does. What are you talking about?! ** -- PhillyHoo Fri Feb 17 2012 8:14:15 PM |
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Enough people in the world already. ** -- Doug Fri Feb 17 2012 2:33:04 PM |
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I have been told that the concept of overpopulation -- hatetheturtle Fri Feb 17 2012 2:34:35 PM |
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Maybe we should decrease the surplus population. -- Teflon Fri Feb 17 2012 2:39:19 PM |
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HUMBUG!!! ** -- Automator Fri Feb 17 2012 3:37:08 PM |
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Agree.* ** -- Worlord Fri Feb 17 2012 2:30:03 PM |
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Why does this come as a surprise?* ** -- Worlord Fri Feb 17 2012 2:26:45 PM |
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