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| Subject: So you do not care about future gas prices? Oil prices went down in 2008 when |
| Posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein on Sun Feb 19 2012 7:56:06 PM |
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off shore drilling was approved. Obama ended that. It is the policy to
reduce supply and make US dependent on foreign oil and foreign makers of wind mills and solar cells. |
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Will rising gas prices doom Obama? -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 6:42:53 PM |
I don't understand why you think demand for oil and gas is low. -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 9:18:52 AM |
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So we could drive $40K Volts that switch to gas after 27 miles? After 12 hours -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 10:29:04 AM |
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Again, putting words in my mouth. There's no utility in responding to you. -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 11:23:20 AM |
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Did you not suggest "investing heavily on alternative energy"? -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:42:39 AM |
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I did. And you took that to mean, "everyone driving Volts." -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 11:47:07 AM |
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So you meant Volts powered at our solar/wind homes? -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 12:04:20 PM |
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Why you don't think wind and solar can be primary source of energy? ** -- JohnHoo? Mon Feb 20 2012 11:03:55 AM |
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The technology isn't there yet. There is no bigger supporter of green energy -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 11:39:49 AM |
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Well said by someone that knows more than I. Transportation is being worked on -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:56:11 AM |
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All of what you say is true, but we have to take into account improvements -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 12:49:14 PM |
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As a dude with a limited physics background, fuel cells are really, really -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 1:14:41 PM |
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When I say "biofuels" I am primarily talking about algae. -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 1:47:50 PM |
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So, no switchgrass, etc that would occupy land that would otherwise raise crops? ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 1:51:41 PM |
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I'm not a big fan of switchgrass because it is about 20 times -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 1:58:38 PM |
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Interesting. I'll read up on it. Much obliged ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 2:12:13 PM |
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Because I think its prospects are limited. Not saying to ignore -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:39:20 AM |
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The well off need that $10,000 tax rebate. Poor do not. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 10:59:02 AM |
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Not if the GOP nominates Sweater Vest. -- NaturalMysticHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 8:44:45 AM |
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Who is Frozen Hair? Is it Mittens? Fig Newton? ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 9:35:29 AM |
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Romney, but I like Mittens better. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 11:12:32 AM |
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Its the silver lining in rising pump prices -- just maybe it'll be his downfall -- Mr Wahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:19:02 PM |
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When they go back to $3 by election day it will benefit him! -- hatetheturtle Sun Feb 19 2012 8:41:15 PM |
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You predict a double dip recession? That would screw Ds. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 8:43:10 PM |
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IMO romney beats him in a close election or santorum gets crushed -- KCHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:17:55 PM |
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Rombama or Obomney -- They are one and the same ** -- Mr Wahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:20:07 PM |
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I work with some pretty hard core tea party types -- Quaker Sun Feb 19 2012 8:36:43 PM |
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Yes. Approval numbers getting ready to crater. ** -- JMHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:04:43 PM |
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It's Mitt's in free fall. Must suck to support someone the base despises. ** -- Shenhoo Mon Feb 20 2012 9:34:34 AM |
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JMHoo said hopefully. ;) ** -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:49:40 PM |
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Not much a president can do about gas prices. Besides, I've been paying almost -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 6:56:06 PM |
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Obama's policies prove that a president has a lot of influence -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:25:54 PM |
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Move over hook'em....there's a new sheriff in town. ** -- WahooRQ Mon Feb 20 2012 9:49:02 PM |
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Not sure where to begin with this one ** -- Capital City Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 8:08:15 AM |
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Oh my! ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 7:53:37 AM |
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And so when it was $4/gallon under W, was that W's fault? -- HooBear Sun Feb 19 2012 9:48:53 PM |
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........naaaaaaaah ** -- 111Balz Sun Feb 19 2012 9:05:53 PM |
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No, but that's a nice repetition of the GOP propaganda. Actually we now -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 8:53:51 PM |
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And I don't like Obama and it would require the nomination of a blithering moron -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 9:17:32 PM |
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I'm starting to think -- Abe Vigodas Head Mon Feb 20 2012 7:56:31 AM |
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SCOTUS could take care of that-would losing there help BO? ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 5:30:22 PM |
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I would like to think they'd go back to the drawing board on HC, -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 10:29:40 AM |
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Gas prices are under Bush levels. We remember. -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:45:04 PM |
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In 2008, gas was under $1.90/gallon. ** -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:49:53 PM |
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And in 2000 or 2001 it was 99 cents. Bush's fault it tripled under him? ** -- 81_Hokie Mon Feb 20 2012 7:10:43 AM |
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In 2001, the national average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $1.46. ** -- LTHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 1:38:37 PM |
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Average for the year? I'll play like Mitt and place a large bet you could get -- 81_Hokie Mon Feb 20 2012 10:37:14 PM |
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It was at the end of 2008 as the banking crisis came into play. -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:55:32 PM |
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And did not know if the collapse of the Bush bubble would take -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:53:21 PM |
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Re: And did not know if the collapse of the Bush bubble would take -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 9:12:08 PM |
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Ha. And why does not GOP'er promise to take us back to Bush? ** -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:09:07 PM |
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LOL! Correlation w/o causality. Gas prices plunged during the world economic -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:19:12 PM |
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And the growth in demand in China, India and other emerging high growth nations -- NJHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:42:08 PM |
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We use less gas now than in late 2008, but prices are higher. Why? ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 8:27:11 PM |
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We also produce more gas now than we did in 2008. Perhaps you -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 8:48:53 PM |
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We also export more gas now and make a profit doing so. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:21:07 PM |
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That's right. Very good!!! Which is why drilling here, drilling now, doesn't -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 12:36:39 AM |
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Are you against oil security and good jobs for Americans? Demand Supply Curve -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 10:57:32 AM |
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No silly. You are assuming it is a competitive market on the supply side. -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 11:49:45 AM |
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Do you think that prices are determined just by demand in the US? C'mon EG. -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:41:20 PM |
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Exactly why Obama's policy to restrict supply harms economy ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:34:06 PM |
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It looks like the administration is about to approve Shell's drilling plan. -- Seattle 'Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 12:48:07 AM |
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Which policies are those? ** -- Seattle 'Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 12:38:40 AM |
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Supply is a major variable in the equation of -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:24:52 PM |
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Oil production is up for the first in decades! ** -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 11:19:04 PM |
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Due to innovative drilling techniques on private land. Production down on public -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:47:23 PM |
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He has not curtaile production at all. More oil should -- Shenhoo Mon Feb 20 2012 9:23:50 AM |
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What is so frustrating about the whole Iran thing is the fact that SA has said -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:05:55 PM |
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I don't disagree. Even domestic production of oil goes into the market where -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:11:47 PM |
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Iran attempting to shut down the Strait would be a hugh mistake for them. -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:17:52 PM |
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I know; they'd shut down their own exports and not for very long before they got -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:22:48 PM |
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We do not export much oil, only refined products from imported oil ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:20:04 PM |
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Preventing drilling in AK, shutting down exploration in Gulf & Keystone Pipeline -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:05:08 PM |
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Well that makes too much sense. ** -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:06:34 PM |
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Except that it is a canard and a paper tiger. We do drill in Alaska, we do -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:15:43 PM |
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Expansion of AK drilling has been stopped several times. It would drop prices in -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:18:14 PM |
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Ridiculous. -- DanTheFan Sun Feb 19 2012 7:43:48 PM |
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So you do not care about future gas prices? Oil prices went down in 2008 when -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:56:06 PM |
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When the economy was tanking. ** -- DanTheFan Sun Feb 19 2012 9:25:41 PM |
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You do not care about jobs for Americans or poor people paying more for gas. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:52:28 PM |
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When W opened up off shore drilling. Policy was reversed. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:40:26 PM |
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We can only hope. ** -- WahooKnows Sun Feb 19 2012 6:45:49 PM |
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