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| Subject: You do not care about jobs for Americans or poor people paying more for gas. ** |
| Posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein on Sun Feb 19 2012 11:52:28 PM |
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Will rising gas prices doom Obama? -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 6:42:53 PM |
I don't understand why you think demand for oil and gas is low. -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 9:18:52 AM |
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So we could drive $40K Volts that switch to gas after 27 miles? After 12 hours -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 10:29:04 AM |
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Again, putting words in my mouth. There's no utility in responding to you. -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 11:23:20 AM |
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Did you not suggest "investing heavily on alternative energy"? -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:42:39 AM |
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I did. And you took that to mean, "everyone driving Volts." -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 11:47:07 AM |
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So you meant Volts powered at our solar/wind homes? -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 12:04:20 PM |
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Why you don't think wind and solar can be primary source of energy? ** -- JohnHoo? Mon Feb 20 2012 11:03:55 AM |
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The technology isn't there yet. There is no bigger supporter of green energy -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 11:39:49 AM |
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Well said by someone that knows more than I. Transportation is being worked on -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:56:11 AM |
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All of what you say is true, but we have to take into account improvements -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 12:49:14 PM |
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As a dude with a limited physics background, fuel cells are really, really -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 1:14:41 PM |
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When I say "biofuels" I am primarily talking about algae. -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 1:47:50 PM |
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So, no switchgrass, etc that would occupy land that would otherwise raise crops? ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 1:51:41 PM |
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I'm not a big fan of switchgrass because it is about 20 times -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 1:58:38 PM |
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Interesting. I'll read up on it. Much obliged ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 2:12:13 PM |
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Because I think its prospects are limited. Not saying to ignore -- Hoodafan Mon Feb 20 2012 11:39:20 AM |
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The well off need that $10,000 tax rebate. Poor do not. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 10:59:02 AM |
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Not if the GOP nominates Sweater Vest. -- NaturalMysticHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 8:44:45 AM |
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Who is Frozen Hair? Is it Mittens? Fig Newton? ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 9:35:29 AM |
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Romney, but I like Mittens better. ** -- NaturalMysticHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 11:12:32 AM |
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Its the silver lining in rising pump prices -- just maybe it'll be his downfall -- Mr Wahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:19:02 PM |
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When they go back to $3 by election day it will benefit him! -- hatetheturtle Sun Feb 19 2012 8:41:15 PM |
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You predict a double dip recession? That would screw Ds. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 8:43:10 PM |
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IMO romney beats him in a close election or santorum gets crushed -- KCHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:17:55 PM |
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Rombama or Obomney -- They are one and the same ** -- Mr Wahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:20:07 PM |
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I work with some pretty hard core tea party types -- Quaker Sun Feb 19 2012 8:36:43 PM |
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Yes. Approval numbers getting ready to crater. ** -- JMHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:04:43 PM |
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It's Mitt's in free fall. Must suck to support someone the base despises. ** -- Shenhoo Mon Feb 20 2012 9:34:34 AM |
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JMHoo said hopefully. ;) ** -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:49:40 PM |
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Not much a president can do about gas prices. Besides, I've been paying almost -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 6:56:06 PM |
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Obama's policies prove that a president has a lot of influence -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:25:54 PM |
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Move over hook'em....there's a new sheriff in town. ** -- WahooRQ Mon Feb 20 2012 9:49:02 PM |
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Not sure where to begin with this one ** -- Capital City Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 8:08:15 AM |
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Oh my! ** -- KaHOOnah Mon Feb 20 2012 7:53:37 AM |
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And so when it was $4/gallon under W, was that W's fault? -- HooBear Sun Feb 19 2012 9:48:53 PM |
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........naaaaaaaah ** -- 111Balz Sun Feb 19 2012 9:05:53 PM |
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No, but that's a nice repetition of the GOP propaganda. Actually we now -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 8:53:51 PM |
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And I don't like Obama and it would require the nomination of a blithering moron -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 9:17:32 PM |
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I'm starting to think -- Abe Vigodas Head Mon Feb 20 2012 7:56:31 AM |
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SCOTUS could take care of that-would losing there help BO? ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 5:30:22 PM |
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I would like to think they'd go back to the drawing board on HC, -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 10:29:40 AM |
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Gas prices are under Bush levels. We remember. -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:45:04 PM |
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In 2008, gas was under $1.90/gallon. ** -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:49:53 PM |
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And in 2000 or 2001 it was 99 cents. Bush's fault it tripled under him? ** -- 81_Hokie Mon Feb 20 2012 7:10:43 AM |
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In 2001, the national average price of a gallon of regular gasoline was $1.46. ** -- LTHoo Mon Feb 20 2012 1:38:37 PM |
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Average for the year? I'll play like Mitt and place a large bet you could get -- 81_Hokie Mon Feb 20 2012 10:37:14 PM |
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It was at the end of 2008 as the banking crisis came into play. -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:55:32 PM |
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And did not know if the collapse of the Bush bubble would take -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:53:21 PM |
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Re: And did not know if the collapse of the Bush bubble would take -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 9:12:08 PM |
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Ha. And why does not GOP'er promise to take us back to Bush? ** -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 10:09:07 PM |
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LOL! Correlation w/o causality. Gas prices plunged during the world economic -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:19:12 PM |
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And the growth in demand in China, India and other emerging high growth nations -- NJHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:42:08 PM |
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We use less gas now than in late 2008, but prices are higher. Why? ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 8:27:11 PM |
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We also produce more gas now than we did in 2008. Perhaps you -- Galileo24 Sun Feb 19 2012 8:48:53 PM |
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We also export more gas now and make a profit doing so. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:21:07 PM |
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That's right. Very good!!! Which is why drilling here, drilling now, doesn't -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 12:36:39 AM |
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Are you against oil security and good jobs for Americans? Demand Supply Curve -- EmmanuelGoldstein Mon Feb 20 2012 10:57:32 AM |
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No silly. You are assuming it is a competitive market on the supply side. -- Galileo24 Mon Feb 20 2012 11:49:45 AM |
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Do you think that prices are determined just by demand in the US? C'mon EG. -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:41:20 PM |
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Exactly why Obama's policy to restrict supply harms economy ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:34:06 PM |
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It looks like the administration is about to approve Shell's drilling plan. -- Seattle 'Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 12:48:07 AM |
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Which policies are those? ** -- Seattle 'Hoo Mon Feb 20 2012 12:38:40 AM |
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Supply is a major variable in the equation of -- LTHoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:24:52 PM |
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Oil production is up for the first in decades! ** -- Shenhoo Sun Feb 19 2012 11:19:04 PM |
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Due to innovative drilling techniques on private land. Production down on public -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:47:23 PM |
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He has not curtaile production at all. More oil should -- Shenhoo Mon Feb 20 2012 9:23:50 AM |
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What is so frustrating about the whole Iran thing is the fact that SA has said -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:05:55 PM |
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I don't disagree. Even domestic production of oil goes into the market where -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:11:47 PM |
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Iran attempting to shut down the Strait would be a hugh mistake for them. -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:17:52 PM |
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I know; they'd shut down their own exports and not for very long before they got -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 8:22:48 PM |
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We do not export much oil, only refined products from imported oil ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:20:04 PM |
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Preventing drilling in AK, shutting down exploration in Gulf & Keystone Pipeline -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:05:08 PM |
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Well that makes too much sense. ** -- SoCalWahoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:06:34 PM |
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Except that it is a canard and a paper tiger. We do drill in Alaska, we do -- Seattle 'Hoo Sun Feb 19 2012 7:15:43 PM |
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Expansion of AK drilling has been stopped several times. It would drop prices in -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:18:14 PM |
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Ridiculous. -- DanTheFan Sun Feb 19 2012 7:43:48 PM |
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So you do not care about future gas prices? Oil prices went down in 2008 when -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 7:56:06 PM |
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When the economy was tanking. ** -- DanTheFan Sun Feb 19 2012 9:25:41 PM |
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You do not care about jobs for Americans or poor people paying more for gas. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:52:28 PM |
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When W opened up off shore drilling. Policy was reversed. ** -- EmmanuelGoldstein Sun Feb 19 2012 11:40:26 PM |
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We can only hope. ** -- WahooKnows Sun Feb 19 2012 6:45:49 PM |
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